Episode 2 - ~Izzie Flips Out!~ (Confessionals)

[Izzie]

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The roleholders in this game are, like, either totally good or totally stupid. Or both.

Cassidy and Jaiden are Citizens with roles.

spies7adrasteia (12:22:26 AM) has left the room.
spies7cassidy (12:22:29 AM): *while kissing izzie a little lower, reaches around and attaches nipple clamps on jaiden*
spies7cassidy (12:22:39 AM): ok
spies7cassidy (12:22:41 AM): now she's gone
spies7cassidy (12:22:48 AM): izzie, how suspicious of adra are you?
spies7izzie (12:22:51 AM): Very.
spies7cassidy (12:22:55 AM): agreed
spies7cassidy (12:23:05 AM): her only push at all was for jimbob
spies7Jaiden (12:23:22 AM): Dayum, you girls are good.
spies7izzie (12:23:26 AM): a) Jim Bob b) Jim Bob c) Blaming Jim Bob on me when she brought him up first.
spies7cassidy (12:23:33 AM): yup
spies7cassidy (12:23:44 AM): wait
spies7cassidy (12:23:52 AM): i thought she took Your evidence on jimbob?
spies7Jaiden (12:24:14 AM): I think it was Adrasteia first as far as I can recall.
spies7cassidy (12:24:29 AM): alrightie
spies7cassidy (12:24:37 AM): and jaiden, i already hinted this to izzie
spies7cassidy (12:24:39 AM): but I have a power role
spies7izzie (12:24:46 AM): KNEW IT
spies7Jaiden (12:24:55 AM): Okay.
spies7Jaiden (12:24:57 AM): I do too.
spies7cassidy (12:24:59 AM): I actually said it in the group chat
spies7Jaiden (12:25:01 AM): I said it.
spies7Jaiden (12:25:03 AM): I hinted it twice.
spies7izzie (12:25:10 AM): LOL WHAT!? LOL WHAT!?!?!??!?!?!
spies7cassidy (12:25:12 AM): lol
spies7Jaiden (12:25:16 AM): I'm not even joking.
spies7cassidy (12:25:16 AM): I am the Socialite
spies7cassidy (12:25:33 AM): my power basically can only serve to prove i'm cit
spies7cassidy (12:25:38 AM): I have my own subforum
spies7Jaiden (12:25:44 AM): Woah.
spies7Jaiden (12:25:45 AM): That's cool.
spies7cassidy (12:25:46 AM): and can invite one person per episode
spies7Jaiden (12:25:57 AM): See I knew there were tons of roles in this game.
spies7izzie (12:25:59 AM): Omgaw, I love it.
spies7Jaiden (12:26:01 AM): Do you want to know why?
spies7cassidy (12:26:03 AM): It is called
spies7cassidy (12:26:07 AM): Casa del Cassidy
spies7cassidy (12:26:13 AM): and has a pizzabagel fountain
spies7cassidy (12:26:21 AM): and it means
spies7cassidy (12:26:29 AM): i was always able to talk to someone on the other side
spies7Jaiden (12:26:43 AM): Ah, nice.
spies7Jaiden (12:26:44 AM): Wait.
spies7cassidy (12:26:46 AM):
spies7Jaiden (12:26:54 AM): Answer this test question.
spies7Jaiden (12:26:58 AM): Have your alignment thread open.
spies7cassidy (12:27:01 AM): hold on
spies7Jaiden (12:27:07 AM): Tell me when you are ready.
spies7cassidy (12:27:19 AM): k
spies7Jaiden (12:27:32 AM): Alright.
spies7Jaiden (12:27:45 AM): Is your role posted in the same post as the post saying you are a citizen?
spies7cassidy (12:27:49 AM): nope
spies7Jaiden (12:28:03 AM): Is your role post less than one hour from the first alignment post?
spies7cassidy (12:28:10 AM): more
spies7Jaiden (12:28:12 AM): You pass.
spies7Jaiden (12:28:29 AM): I got mine at 9:25pm .
spies7cassidy (12:28:32 AM): your turn for a test
spies7izzie (12:28:33 AM): Well, um, like, I'm a regular Citizen. Heh.
spies7Jaiden (12:28:35 AM): Sure.
spies7cassidy (12:28:51 AM): is your role bolded or in italics?
spies7Jaiden (12:28:52 AM): Erm, i'm MST by the way.
spies7Jaiden (12:28:56 AM): Bolded.
spies7cassidy (12:29:15 AM): does sam foreshadow you having a role?
spies7Jaiden (12:29:27 AM): Yes.
spies7cassidy (12:29:30 AM): how so
spies7Jaiden (12:29:40 AM): I can't quote but.
spies7Jaiden (12:29:49 AM): He tells me I have a role and that he is going to tell me in the next post.
spies7cassidy (12:30:04 AM): Fine
spies7cassidy (12:30:08 AM): complete the quote
spies7cassidy (12:30:22 AM): "You have a role. More"
spies7Jaiden (12:30:25 AM): Coming soon.
spies7Jaiden (12:30:29 AM): Very soon.
spies7cassidy (12:30:48 AM): alright
spies7cassidy (12:30:51 AM): i'd say you pass
spies7cassidy (12:30:57 AM): except you should already know
spies7cassidy (12:31:05 AM): spy's would get the same format for their
spies7cassidy (12:31:06 AM): s
spies7cassidy (12:31:15 AM): and they would tell each other
spies7cassidy (12:31:25 AM): but
spies7Jaiden (12:31:25 AM): Probably. But would I take that chance as a spy?
spies7cassidy (12:31:30 AM): judging by response time
spies7cassidy (12:31:39 AM): you are either cit power role
spies7izzie (12:31:40 AM): I'm so fucking good at figuring out Citizens. Wow. My three 100% Citizen reads were you two and Julia.
spies7cassidy (12:31:42 AM): or spy power role
spies7cassidy (12:31:56 AM): odds favor cit at this point
spies7cassidy (12:31:58 AM):
spies7Jaiden (12:32:02 AM): That's cool. I breadcrumbed my role twice.
spies7Jaiden (12:32:04 AM): Want to see them?
spies7izzie (12:32:10 AM): Yeah! Lol.
spies7cassidy (12:32:13 AM): sure
spies7izzie (12:32:24 AM): I need to, like, get back in character...
spies7Jaiden (12:32:31 AM): I am the Security Checkpoint.
spies7cassidy (12:32:31 AM): lol
spies7Jaiden (12:32:37 AM): That is my role name.
spies7cassidy (12:32:39 AM):
spies7Jaiden (12:32:42 AM): Here are the breadcrumbs:
spies7izzie (12:32:43 AM):
spies7cassidy (12:32:49 AM):
spies7izzie (12:32:52 AM):
spies7cassidy (12:32:56 AM):
spies7Jaiden (12:32:57 AM): I know, that was my face.
spies7Jaiden (12:33:13 AM): I already hinted it RIGHT after I recieved my role in case I need to prove it:

spies7JimBob (9:30:08 PM): who was asking about kerri earlier?
spies7JimBob (9:31:18 PM): she said hi to me a while ago and then never said anything else...
spies7adrasteia (9:31:36 PM): Jaiden, I believe.
spies7Jaiden (9:32:25 PM): HALT! Who goes there?
spies7Jaiden (9:32:29 PM): I was asking about her.
spies7JimBob (9:33:18 PM): it just seemed a little strange that she said hi and nothing else

Hope it will make my role believed by all, since I am breadcrumbing early!
spies7cassidy (12:33:13 AM): lol, i thought mine said Socialist at first
spies7Jaiden (12:33:24 AM): I hinted my role almost immediately after I read my role.
spies7Jaiden (12:33:27 AM): In main chat.
spies7cassidy (12:33:30 AM): nice
spies7Jaiden (12:33:32 AM): Then:
spies7Jaiden (12:33:36 AM): Today.
spies7Jaiden (12:33:45 AM): Actually yesterday.
spies7Jaiden (12:33:47 AM): I can't remember.
spies7Jaiden (12:33:56 AM): spies7cassidy (11:44:59 PM): i should probably just be patient, but instead I continue to refresh
spies7cassidy (11:45:31 PM): got it!
spies7Jaiden (11:45:38 PM): Nice, ahah.
spies7cassidy (11:45:41 PM): he didn't post in my thread
spies7Jaiden (11:45:52 PM): I bet the security is too good in my confessional.
spies7Jaiden (12:34:07 AM): I even italicized security in my original post.
spies7cassidy (12:34:25 AM): so what are your powers
spies7izzie (12:34:28 AM): ^
spies7cassidy (12:34:34 AM): and did izzie know?
spies7izzie (12:34:37 AM): No.
spies7Jaiden (12:34:38 AM): Basically after exile.
spies7Jaiden (12:34:40 AM): No she did not.
spies7Jaiden (12:34:43 AM): I almost told her.
spies7Jaiden (12:34:50 AM): I will show you the conversation where I almost told her after.
spies7izzie (12:35:16 AM): I'm, like, worried that I'm not suspected nearly enough. This is new.
spies7Jaiden (12:35:35 AM): Basically I can discover roles from people that are eliminated. The ones that are exiled or imprisoned.
spies7cassidy (12:35:35 AM): i'll help with that; i'm already known for attacking jaiden
spies7cassidy (12:35:51 AM): soooooo you're the mortician
spies7Jaiden (12:35:53 AM): Before imprisonment I get to choose two eliminated players.
spies7Jaiden (12:36:08 AM): Sam will tell me if any of them had a role, and what the role was.
spies7Jaiden (12:36:31 AM): I think it's dumb to have a role that checks the role AFTER the person is dead.
spies7Jaiden (12:36:42 AM): But maybe it'll help us find spy roles?
spies7cassidy (12:36:51 AM): what'd he say for our two?
spies7Jaiden (12:37:00 AM): Which two?
spies7cassidy (12:37:07 AM): the two we exiled
spies7cassidy (12:37:09 AM): perry and jim
spies7Jaiden (12:37:10 AM): Oh.
spies7Jaiden (12:37:17 AM): I didn't check yet.

I... I...

ARE THEY FUCKING RETARDED.

I AM NOT A CLEARED CITIZEN.

I mean, I'm a Citizen, but... GOD. They were my highest Citizen reads by miles, though.

That being said, OMGAW. This could, like, totally help us win the game.

[Judge Sam]

Just wanted to thank you for not revealing your alias even when it was guessed during that chat in which Jaiden revealed he was Rey. Additionally, even though you don't have a role, you remained quiet when Jaiden and Cassidy were "proving" their roles to each other by copying parts of their role PMs.

I really appreciate you following the rules in these cases and I am loving having you play! Izzie is one of my favorite roleplayed characters by far haha. And you are doing really great with the game, making friends, posting evidence, etc. Love reading your confessionals and thoughts.

[Izzie]

Aw, like, thanks! I'm totally improving this season and, like, I'm totally fearing imprisonment instead of exile, which is mondo weird.

That chat was like, an exciting trainwreck that I wanted to stop, but like, couldn't bring myself to.

I'll totally like, have some substance to post soon, but like, I need to get my head on straight.

[Izzie]

Oh, so like, I forgot about this PM I totally got from Cuddles:

EDIT: I was going to send this before imprisonment started, but I couldn't complete the case in time. It looks like I'm already safe though so I can send this without breaking any rules.

My main suspect is Dylan, and I'm also suspicious of Adra, Kerri and Daria. Daria I haven't met but she seems to be a bandwagonner, Adra you've provided ample reasoning for yourself but I'll add her defence of Dylan, and Kerri raised a red flag or two for me at the very start but hasn't appeared recently.

I'm inclined to trust Cassidy, but that's purely on the idea that a spy wouldn't be that obsessive about one suspect, and also based on her unprompted Dylan suspicions. I also like Bianca as a citizen right now, just on the basis of a long conversation I had with her. I agree with you about Julia, but I can't speak for a lot of the Illuminati as my SP hasn't been helpful and I've been focusing my attention on the group I can influence, not the group I can't.

Here's my full Dylan case. He's almost certainly going to be my exile vote - I'm not making the same mistake as last time.

1) In the Jaiden - Dylan confrontation early in the game, Dylan at first doesn't even notice the two inconsistencies in Jaiden's argument relating to his quotes of Dylan himself. He replies as if there was no inconsistency. It's only much later on (three hours actually) that Dylan points out that Jaiden has misquoted him. Dylan's attempt to explain this away is clumsy, for him. Why was there a three-hour delay there? What happened?

2) spies7izzie: So Dylan went from, like, your main suspect to your top town read at the snap of his fingers?

Jaiden's not the only one who changed his mind. When I asked Dylan if he thought Jaiden could be honestly mistaken about his (Jaiden's) misquote, Dylan answered instantly: "No". At the time I thought that Dylan, if he were a spy, would have tried to say something vaguer and placatory since I obviously didn't suspect Jaiden. Now I'm wondering how Dylan was that certain early on, but apparently a couple of hours later had completely made up with Jaiden. What happened? Did he just realise that the wheels were coming off the Jaiden lynch and want to switch sides?

Dylan gets one foot on every bandwagon:
(07:32:40 PM) spies7dylan: Sara skim read the forum and came in saying "oh Jaiden suspects me, he is so annoying I'll just vote him out no wait I'll vote with you guys"
(07:33:24 PM) spies7dylan: It seems like she is just not interesed in the game

Early on I said you had to look out for people who seemed too certain. Well, Dylan started off looking pretty certain of Jaiden. He then looked pretty certain of me and JB / Jaiden being spypartners. It's curious then that the one person he wasn't sure of was the one that he actually voted. Maybe he wanted to look better when JimBob turned up citizen, if the vote didn't change?

In his case against me, Dylan completely misinterprits my statements, even going so far as to say that I'm still "against" Izzie when I've publicly posted in the same thread that I'm reconsidering my vote. He also tells one outright falsehood:
"Strangely enough, Cuddles' other possibilities were Sara and Jim Bob. And he got his evidence on Sara FROM Izzie his number 1 suspect hmm."
At that time that was posted yo weren't my number one suspect, and as I pointed out to Dylan himself, I'd never had a read - citizen or spy - on JimBob.

When I bring up the point of JimBob being completely undefended, Dylan flakes out:
(06:50:59 PM) spies7dylan: To add to the previous conversation, I think it is WIFOM to tink about resistance

Cassidy brings up a good point:
(11:31:49 PM) spies7cassidy: so i kinda suspect dylan now
(11:32:04 PM) spies7cassidy: bandwagon hopping

Adrasteia, on the other hand, has consistently defended Dylan, which is understandable if both of them are spies:
(11:32:52 PM) spies7adrasteia: if that were true, I'd look just as hard at Daria and Sara. I believe Dylan to be a citizen. And I'm hesitant to call Jaiden a spy.

It took me less than twenty minutes to talk Dylan off me, and after I did he was practically begging to justify himself after I said this:
(12:33:57 AM) Cuddles: Because I won't be online to defend myself later on and everybody knows this

Dylan's last response struck me as odd and rather self-justifying at the time, but I ignored it then.
(12:34:25 AM) Dylan: I got carried away all day thinking about the game. And thats where the suspicion came from.

I was the one person everybody knew couldn't come online at exile time. Dylan may not have even expected to see me online that evening - I'd made it clear that I couldn't attend that exile in a burg chat - and decided to target me over JimBob. If he knew both JimBob, who I'd refused to vote, and Jaiden, my obvious alliance partner, were both citizens, this would be a good way to at least potentially split the vote between two citizens and possibly get me out instead of JimBob, who hadn't been as opinionated.

Up until that evening Dylan had always been supportive of me, yet he just happens to try and get the only citizen who's not there to defend himself exiled? If you're going to try and frame a strong citizen, the time to do it is when they won't be around to defend themselves.

I think the Dylan-Jaiden confrontation gave Dylan enough town cred that he's coasted on it. Let's not let that happen any longer.

I need to like, look through this more closely and, like, figure out whether or not his points are valid, but like, it's totally convincing at face value.

[Izzie]

Also, like, something I need to look through:

spies7cuddles (5:52:27 PM): Dylan I have a question for you
spies7cuddles (5:52:29 PM): Two actually
spies7dylan (5:53:50 PM): Go ahead (quick)
spies7cuddles (5:53:54 PM): Ok first thing
spies7cuddles (5:54:14 PM): Jaiden posted his case on you, which we all know contained some inaccuracies / misquotes
spies7cuddles (5:54:30 PM): At 9:30 that day you answered it with a brief defence as though it were true
spies7cuddles (5:54:41 PM): At 12:15 you said in a burg chat you'd realized it was wrong
spies7cuddles (5:54:47 PM): And then ten minutes later you replied.
spies7cuddles (5:54:50 PM): Again.
spies7dylan (5:55:09 PM): Yes
spies7cuddles (5:55:11 PM): My question is: how did it take you almost three hours to realize and respond to a case that wasn't based on correct facts?
spies7dylan (5:55:22 PM): Because I read the chat transcripts
spies7cuddles (5:55:28 PM): For three hours?
spies7dylan (5:55:33 PM): No three hours later
spies7cuddles (5:55:40 PM): What prompted that?
spies7dylan (5:55:46 PM): I was on this for the three hours, mentioned to a few people that it was stupid case
spies7cuddles (5:56:04 PM): Ok, do you mind saying who?
spies7cuddles (5:56:11 PM): Because none of that is in the burg
spies7dylan (5:56:14 PM): Then there was a lull in conversation so I decided to check it just so I had some back up when Jaiden came back with a retort
spies7dylan (5:56:18 PM): It is in the burg
spies7cuddles (5:56:19 PM): And going on the conversation that IS in the burg
spies7cuddles (5:56:25 PM): You realized at 12:15
spies7cuddles (5:56:31 PM): It's posted right there, with timestamps
spies7dylan (5:56:36 PM): Yeah...
spies7dylan (5:57:09 PM): I really thought the case was that stupid, before I realised the misquotations. But what was bothering me was the fact I was his number one suspect
spies7dylan (5:57:24 PM): So I pulled up the chat transcripts.
spies7cuddles (5:57:35 PM): Ok
spies7dylan (5:57:38 PM): Actually I think I was copying and pasting the transcripts into my confessional
spies7cuddles (5:57:44 PM): Ok
spies7cuddles (5:57:47 PM): I won't labor the point
spies7cuddles (5:57:49 PM): Second question
spies7cuddles (5:58:09 PM): The following night I asked you straight out if you thought Jaiden could have made a mistake with those misquotes of his
spies7cuddles (5:58:14 PM): And you said point blank "no".
spies7dylan (5:58:27 PM): True
spies7cuddles (5:58:31 PM): But later on Jaiden said he thought the two of you were on very good terms and believed each other citizens.
spies7cuddles (5:58:33 PM): What changed?
spies7cuddles (5:58:46 PM): I'm interested because Jaiden took some serious flak for that,as you know
spies7dylan (5:58:57 PM): I just thought he was dumb, and I even said to you and others he was eager and was tunelling me
spies7dylan (5:59:22 PM): So he had an idea, and took that quote choosing to ignore the context rather than mistakingly doing it.
spies7dylan (5:59:34 PM): The smart citizen would know not to do that
spies7cuddles (5:59:52 PM): So you're saying it wasn't a mistake but it wasn't a sign that he was a spy either, just a dumb citizen
spies7cuddles (5:59:59 PM): That sound right?
spies7dylan (6:00:00 PM): Yeah pretty much. And he was
spies7cuddles (6:00:18 PM): Ok thanks
spies7dylan (6:00:40 PM): Back to the first point, I think I was talking to Buthay, Adra, Jim Bob?
spies7dylan (6:00:42 PM): I can check
spies7dylan (6:01:09 PM): I remember asking people to read my initial post because I wasn't sure if the question I asked at the end of it would come across as me being ironic.
spies7cuddles (6:01:28 PM): You mind if I take a look at that for a sec?
spies7dylan (6:01:33 PM): I asked at the end "Jaiden, why did you accuse Kerri of lurking?"
spies7cuddles (6:01:59 PM): Yes that makes sense
spies7dylan (6:02:01 PM): It was a subtle dig, because by him finding me suspicious by asking if Sara was scummy was exactly the same as him asking if Kerri was scummy
spies7dylan (6:02:13 PM): So I remember asking people before 12.15
spies7dylan (6:02:58 PM): I dont really know, it just kind of happened. The whole thing was nagging me, I was afraid that Jaiden had a lot of influence and that I would be exiled so I wanted to strengthen my defence, so I checked the logs and then shit myself when I realized what he had done
spies7cuddles (6:02:58 PM): spies7dylan (12:14:02 PM): Oh my god.
spies7dylan (12:14:06 PM): I just realised something.
spies7joshua (12:14:16 PM): ?
spies7buthayna (12:14:30 PM): What?
spies7joshua (12:15:19 PM): what did you realize?
spies7joshua (12:15:20 PM): lol
spies7buthayna (12:15:39 PM): *laughs* I guess we will never know.
spies7buthayna (12:15:51 PM): Where are you from, Joshua?
spies7dylan (12:15:59 PM):
spies7dylan (12:16:15 PM): I looked over the group chat, and Jaiden actually completely twisted things around.
spies7cuddles (6:03:08 PM): "Oh my God, I just realised something"
spies7cuddles (6:03:09 PM): ?
spies7dylan (6:03:16 PM): Yep!
spies7dylan (6:03:38 PM): Thats pretty much when it happened
spies7cuddles (6:03:40 PM): You just realised but you'd been asking people before that?
spies7cuddles (6:03:55 PM): Adra, care to comment here? Do you have any chat logs?
spies7dylan (6:04:01 PM): No I'd been asking people to look over my initial post
spies7cuddles (6:04:06 PM): Oh ok
spies7dylan (6:04:06 PM): Before I ever checked the logs
spies7dylan (6:04:26 PM): I was concerend about the question I asked in my initial post because it might have made him mad
spies7dylan (6:04:47 PM): In fact I remember asking you if I'm not mistake
spies7cuddles (6:05:18 PM): Well it's easy enough for me to find out
spies7cuddles (6:05:28 PM): What time was it? 9:30 that morning?
spies7dylan (6:05:50 PM): I am checking now
spies7dylan (6:05:57 PM): It was in the morning I think
spies7dylan (6:06:02 PM): Obviously before 12.15
spies7dylan (6:06:18 PM): Just control + f "subtle"
spies7dylan (6:06:41 PM): Or not.
spies7cuddles (6:06:59 PM): Damn timezones
spies7cuddles (6:07:15 PM): I did speak to you that day, but it was very very early in the morning for me, like just after midnight
spies7dylan (6:07:44 PM): Oh quickly, I think Adra broke the rules by posting her conversations with JB
spies7cuddles (6:07:50 PM): When you said "I'm just gonna let this thing play out"
spies7cuddles (6:07:53 PM): Oh?
spies7cuddles (6:07:56 PM): Where?
spies7izzie (6:08:34 PM): "I was afraid that Jaiden had a lot of influence" Dylan, like, what specifically gave you this impression? Not, like, an accusation, just a question.
spies7dylan (6:09:33 PM): Because on day 1, Jaiden, Stone, Tracy seemed to dominate the conversation
spies7dylan (6:09:37 PM): In the main chat
spies7dylan (6:10:03 PM): And I found them all extremely annoying, and hoped that I wasn't dealing with people thinking he was God's gift
spies7dylan (6:11:24 PM): I have found myself saying it to Jim Bob, but I am sure I said it to others
spies7dylan (6:11:37 PM): Specifially Buthayna since she was online according to what I say to Joshua
spies7dylan (6:13:24 PM): Yes I did say it to Buthayna
spies7dylan (6:13:32 PM): I've left a few conversations out of my confessional