Ep. 2 Convos

[Kieno]

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spies7kleyton (11:03:04 PM): hello kieno!
spies7kieno (11:04:58 PM): hey man, hows it goin?
spies7kleyton (11:05:01 PM): alright
spies7kleyton (11:05:10 PM): digging this team switch thing
spies7kieno (11:05:39 PM): of course, comin over to the badass winning side
spies7kleyton (11:06:31 PM): yeah the free masons had their quirks, but were boring in the end
spies7kleyton (11:06:35 PM): and spastic with their votes
spies7kleyton (11:06:45 PM): they are all sorts of loose cannons
spies7kieno (11:07:59 PM): i didnt follow closely, but that was pretty obvi
spies7kieno (11:09:45 PM): did you keep up with us, dude?
spies7kleyton (11:11:00 PM): not in the forums, no
spies7kleyton (11:11:04 PM): i've got a ot of work to do with that
spies7kieno (11:15:23 PM): yes, yes you do
spies7kieno (11:15:35 PM): as cool as it would be to switch, i dont exactly envy you, brah
spies7kleyton (11:16:30 PM): LOL, yeah
spies7kleyton (11:16:48 PM): well at least it's only one episode's worth

spies7kathie (11:14:20 PM): Can I ask you something
spies7kieno (11:15:13 PM): of course dudette
spies7kathie (11:15:48 PM): Do you honestly think Im a spy?
spies7kieno (11:16:17 PM): i think you've done some scummy things, for sure
spies7kathie (11:16:26 PM): I know I have.
spies7kathie (11:16:48 PM): I just dont want to be considered 'dead meat' for doing a newbie move, you know?
spies7kieno (11:17:22 PM): no one is ever dead meat, irulan looked to be toast, she's alive, perry was a goner but he almost survived too
spies7kathie (11:17:47 PM): yeah, but I think people are really into trying to get me out.
spies7kathie (11:18:00 PM): so I dunno if I should try to get to know people or if that'll come off as fishy.
spies7kathie (11:18:13 PM): like ive tried explaining my logic and hopefully Harold can too. I dunno.
spies7kieno (11:18:50 PM): you have to start talking, otherwise you are dead
spies7kieno (11:19:02 PM): why dont you start by telling me some procit moves you've made?
spies7kathie (11:20:51 PM): Well, I've TRIED to give my option on who I thought scum was. I guess that isnt really pro-cit though, is it?
spies7kathie (11:21:10 PM): I didnt come up with some fancy 'role' that I have, out of no where..
spies7kathie (11:22:32 PM): Yay, for a lose-lose.
spies7kathie (11:22:35 PM): And I guess thats really scumish like, as well. -_-
spies7kieno (11:25:15 PM): you dont need a role to be procit, and when did you give your opnion on who was scum, other than harold?
spies7kathie (11:26:53 PM): I didnt really recognize Marcus as one of my prime suspects until other people put him on the hot seat. And just his reaction.
spies7kieno (11:29:03 PM): his reaction was not smooth, i'll give you that
spies7kathie (11:30:20 PM): Honestly, I went by that. i guess I learned my lesson with not being able to switch at the last minute. I didnt know that was a scum move.
spies7kieno (11:32:09 PM): it definitely is when the other leading vote-getter flips cit
spies7kieno (11:32:18 PM): maybe you knew that would happen, maybe not
spies7kathie (11:34:10 PM): I know that now.

[Kieno]

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spies7anton (5:35:03 PM): Hey Kieno. What's goin' on?
spies7kieno (5:35:52 PM): hey man, hows it goin?
spies7anton (5:37:14 PM): Pretty well, nervous about the night kill. And you?
spies7kieno (5:37:37 PM): i got some killer bud if you want to ease those nerves...
spies7kieno (5:38:23 PM): i always tell myself to not get too worked up about imprisonments, but its hard dude
spies7anton (5:38:27 PM): I'm actually smoking a bowl as we speak, but... since you're offering.
spies7anton (5:38:35 PM): I know, since there's nothing we can do about it.
spies7kieno (5:39:08 PM): exactly...so lets talk about somethin else
spies7anton (5:39:15 PM): Good call.
spies7anton (5:39:30 PM): How was your day?
spies7kieno (5:40:03 PM): groovy, did pretty much nothin, how i like it
spies7anton (5:40:58 PM): That's how I like it too. Laziness is my specialty.
spies7anton (5:41:35 PM): And not even just laziness, just doing things that make me happy and not stress.
spies7kieno (5:43:26 PM): for sure
spies7kieno (5:43:29 PM): brb
spies7kieno (6:17:12 PM): i guess i dont understand how irulan went from "definitely a cit" to "scummy" in your eyes when she hasnt done anything in that period of time
spies7anton (6:17:35 PM): The vote says a lot to me.
spies7kieno (6:19:07 PM): yeah...but shes clueless
spies7anton (6:19:56 PM): I'm just saying, her vote makes a lot less sense than most of the others.
spies7anton (6:20:03 PM): And her claims are getting ridiculous.
spies7kieno (6:21:05 PM): man, her claims were always ridiculous
spies7kieno (6:21:15 PM): everythin about her play is ridiculous
spies7anton (6:21:17 PM): I don't see Sam accepting someone that doesn't understand basic voting strategy,
spies7kieno (6:23:11 PM): i woulda thought english we be a requirement to, but i guess not
spies7anton (6:25:00 PM): lmao. True that.

spies7sara (6:19:21 PM): Congrats on safety
spies7kieno (6:19:35 PM): thanks dudette
spies7sara (6:19:54 PM): I hope I am getting next safe column
spies7kieno (6:20:25 PM): simply based on the face that you were the 2nd leading vote getter, i think youll be cool
spies7kieno (6:20:30 PM): but ya never know
spies7sara (6:20:53 PM): I know what you mean
spies7sara (6:21:09 PM): but as you can say that isn't enough to banked on that
spies7kieno (6:21:53 PM): i dont use banks, i store my belongings in grottoes
spies7kieno (6:22:06 PM): but thats neither here nor there
spies7sara (6:22:11 PM): but as you can say that isn't enough to grotto on that
spies7sara (6:22:15 PM): lmao
spies7kieno (6:24:33 PM): ...maybe next update
spies7sara (6:34:01 PM): lol I'm in the final 10
spies7sara (6:34:41 PM): I would assume that Julie would get the boot for identifying the first spy but I feel like it would be me
spies7kieno (6:35:09 PM): kathie is freakin out too but shes likely just as safe as you
spies7kieno (6:36:07 PM): alex really played up the link between irulan and perry, id be worried if a was fat, gay man with a mustache
spies7sara (6:37:06 PM): lol
spies7sara (6:37:32 PM): I never did trust Irulan nor do I trust Tracy
spies7kieno (6:37:59 PM): shit, i dont trust anyone at this point
spies7sara (6:38:39 PM): you can trust the beauty queen (runner-up)
spies7sara (6:39:34 PM): oh wow
spies7kieno (6:39:37 PM): poor fat, gay man with mustache
spies7sara (6:41:10 PM): I wondered why they didn't killed Julia?
spies7kieno (6:42:23 PM): like i said, alex played a big, fat role in perry's exile too
spies7sara (6:43:43 PM): Well I made it to final 29
spies7sara (6:43:47 PM): or is it 28
spies7kieno (6:44:01 PM): 28 thanks to jaiden
spies7kieno (6:44:08 PM): no, 29?
spies7sara (6:44:08 PM): thx god he
spies7kieno (6:44:10 PM): i hate math
spies7sara (6:44:15 PM): was a douche
spies7kieno (6:44:30 PM): whatever, sucks to lose a cit like that
spies7kieno (6:45:25 PM): i gotta bail
spies7kieno (6:45:27 PM): peace
spies7sara (6:45:35 PM): peace

[Kieno]

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spies7kieno (12:44:31 AM): hey bro
spies7vladimir (12:45:53 AM): Hi
spies7vladimir (12:45:54 AM): how are you?
spies7kieno (12:46:55 AM): grand, you?
spies7vladimir (12:47:58 AM): Really good, actually. I had a fantastic weekend. Too bad that it's over and I get to go back to work.
spies7vladimir (12:48:17 AM): Who do you suspect this coming exile?
spies7kieno (12:49:19 AM): i guess my #1 suspect would totally be kathie
spies7kieno (12:50:32 AM): her late and thinly explained switch to marcus to go along with her bogus scumhunting and open desire to tunnel henry in ep. 1
spies7kieno (12:50:51 AM): and i still have no idea what to do about irulan, her situation blows my mind
spies7vladimir (12:51:15 AM): Has anything transpired on that situation since Friday?
spies7kieno (12:51:24 AM): irulan?
spies7kieno (12:52:26 AM): not really, cuz the chick hasnt been around much
spies7vladimir (12:52:29 AM): Right
spies7kieno (12:52:34 AM): i think were on totally diff schedules too
spies7vladimir (12:53:03 AM): Alright..
spies7vladimir (12:53:17 AM): If you had a gun to your head
spies7vladimir (12:53:26 AM): and had to say Spy or Cit on Irulan, what would you say?
spies7kieno (12:54:35 AM): i dont do guns, bro, but for the purposes of this hypothetical situation, id say...cit
spies7kieno (12:55:02 AM): but i really dont know what to think of her, shes all over the place
spies7vladimir (12:55:14 AM): She is all over the place.
spies7kieno (12:55:19 AM): nuttier than a crab on crack
spies7vladimir (12:55:21 AM): What would lead you to say cit?
spies7kieno (12:57:00 AM): pretty terrible reason, i guess, but id like to believe sam wouldnt give a spy alignment to someone supposedly pretty new to the game and who struggles with english
spies7kieno (12:57:59 AM): but i dont know, man, i still dont like her
spies7vladimir (12:58:06 AM): He's given spy roles to completely brand new players in the past.
spies7kieno (12:58:15 AM): she did lie about getting roles and alignments confused
spies7vladimir (12:58:31 AM): meta-gaming on what Sam would or wouldn't do is generally futile, because he's owned people who've tried that in the past.
spies7vladimir (12:58:51 AM): How did she lie?
spies7kieno (12:58:52 AM): yeah, he might be crazier than irulan
spies7kieno (12:59:38 AM): well, brah, when she started getting heat for asking about what to do with her role, she claimed she meant her alignment
spies7kieno (1:00:26 AM): now that she has finally roleclaimed, its clear she's either lying about having a role or lying about her original question
spies7vladimir (1:00:49 AM): Maybe
spies7kieno (1:01:05 AM): whoa, you dont think so?
spies7vladimir (1:01:25 AM): Well, considering the timeline, I don't think it's a sure-fire bet.
spies7vladimir (1:02:01 AM): Maybe she originally thought role meant alignment, later learned she was wrong, and then used the term role to mean role.
spies7vladimir (1:02:36 AM): Did she actually roleclaim? Or are you talking about her soft-claim?
spies7kieno (1:02:39 AM): why would she even askabout alignment tho?
spies7kieno (1:02:52 AM): we're all either cits or pretending to be cits
spies7vladimir (1:02:55 AM): Right.
spies7kieno (1:03:04 AM): and no, just her softclaim
spies7vladimir (1:03:06 AM): I think that question was basically "So what do we do in this game?"
spies7vladimir (1:03:14 AM): just poorly phrased.
spies7kieno (1:03:58 AM): poorly is an understatement, dude
spies7kieno (1:04:14 AM): so youre leanin cit on her too?
spies7vladimir (1:04:18 AM): Yeah
spies7vladimir (1:04:40 AM): The way she interacts with others is the main reason.
spies7vladimir (1:05:09 AM): She seems to rely on seemingly random people when she's in trouble.
spies7vladimir (1:05:29 AM): Fits the mindset of a clueless citizen, rather than a spy who has other spies to connect with and help her.
spies7kieno (1:08:23 AM): or a clueless spy publicly relying on her spy buddies
spies7kieno (1:08:32 AM): anything is possible with that dudette
spies7vladimir (1:09:36 AM): Sure. But one of the people she "relied" on at least initially was myself, and I'm not a spy. Doesn't necessarily mean much to anyone but myself, but I know she's not relying on her spy buddies, or at least not entirely.
spies7kieno (1:10:32 AM): no offense bro, but like you said, that doesnt mean shit to anyone else unless they feel really fuckin good about you
spies7vladimir (1:11:59 AM): Yeah. She also contacted Yuri when she let him know about her role. I feel pretty good about Yuri being a citizen as well, so...
spies7kieno (1:13:25 AM): yeah, im not a huge fan of the dude, but i have to agree with your read on him
spies7vladimir (1:13:55 AM): Yeah, I guess the two of you didn't exactly click too well, heh.
spies7kieno (1:14:58 AM): i think the little dude has warmed up to me a bit, but he seems to have a thing people doin a lil RPin
spies7vladimir (1:15:40 AM): heh, yeah, no kidding.
spies7kieno (1:15:47 AM): but whatever, i just saw your latest post, and damn bro, i got hit with the dreaded gut read
spies7vladimir (1:16:11 AM): yes. The dreaded gut of a clown named Vlad.
spies7kieno (1:16:20 AM): a seemingly large gut too
spies7vladimir (1:16:24 AM): hahaha
spies7vladimir (1:16:34 AM): I like to think it's simply well proportioned.
spies7kieno (1:17:01 AM): true, itd be weird if you had 3 chins and washboard abs
spies7kieno (1:18:01 AM): anyway, i'll post this in the thread too, but i cant really defend myself on the average presence charges, but i believe i was the first to call out kathie
spies7vladimir (1:18:21 AM): Yes, you were.
spies7vladimir (1:18:44 AM): Besides that, I can't think of much else you've done pro-actively.
spies7kieno (1:19:34 AM): shit man, neither can i, but thats still probably more than some people
spies7kieno (1:19:45 AM): youre right tho that i need to step up my game
spies7vladimir (1:19:47 AM): Yeah, it is more than some people. I won't argue that.
spies7vladimir (1:20:50 AM): You're in a good spot for a spy. Unsuspected. Not stepping on any toes. Kind of just going along. Posting enough and chatting enough to where nobody can really call you a lurker.
spies7kieno (1:21:49 AM): well, perry did call me a lurker, but whatever
spies7kieno (1:22:01 AM): i am kinda coastin right now
spies7kieno (1:23:03 AM): altho if i do it now, youll probably say its just to get you off my back
spies7kieno (1:23:13 AM): step it up, that is
spies7vladimir (1:23:17 AM): No, I won't say that.
spies7vladimir (1:23:31 AM): Maybe it is, but if you do step it up then I will have more information to get a read on you from.
spies7kieno (1:23:44 AM): for sure, thats fair
spies7vladimir (1:25:40 AM): I won't ever complain about someone stepping up their activity or game, or what have you. Townies have reason to want to change aspects of their play that people find suspicious just as much as scum do.
spies7kieno (1:26:12 AM): alright, cool
spies7kieno (1:27:09 AM): i got one question for ya before i peace out, do you know why irulan voted harold?
spies7vladimir (1:27:16 AM): That I don't know
spies7vladimir (1:27:26 AM): I haven't talked with her since like Wednesday or Thursday of last week.
spies7kieno (1:27:52 AM): damn, i had hoped you had talked about it since you landed on the same bro
spies7vladimir (1:28:15 AM): nope. I chatted to Anton about it, and the two of us discussed it with Kathie, but beyond that I didn't really discuss it privately with anyone.
spies7kieno (1:29:02 AM): so kathie was on board at that point?
spies7vladimir (1:29:16 AM): I honestly can't remember, but yes I think so.
spies7vladimir (1:29:26 AM): I think at the end of the conversation she was on board, but not at the beginning.
spies7vladimir (1:30:03 AM): That chat is a bit hazy for me. I was really tired and wasn't paying the best attention.
spies7kieno (1:30:35 AM): thats cool, i'll just ask her about it when she shows up
spies7kieno (1:31:33 AM): i know i said only one question, dude, but this third question should be the final one. Would anton be your 4th suspect or do you just want him to answer the question?
spies7vladimir (1:32:25 AM): I just want to see him answer the question.
spies7vladimir (1:33:02 AM): I've seen him flip-flop like that in the past, so...I want to see what he has to say about it.
spies7kieno (1:33:50 AM): alright cool, and with that, im gonna answer in your thread and then go crash
spies7vladimir (1:34:21 AM): Alright. Thanks for the chat. I'm going to catch up a little more on the board then crash myself.
spies7vladimir (1:34:23 AM): Good night.
spies7kieno (1:34:27 AM): later bro

spies7kieno (12:45:16 AM): whats up dude?
spies7hank (12:45:36 AM): hey kieno. just thinking about passing out shortly
spies7hank (12:45:45 AM): been chatting a bit here and there
spies7hank (12:45:55 AM): what's going on with you?
spies7kieno (12:46:47 AM): nothin much man, sorry to catch you at a bad time
spies7hank (12:47:02 AM): naw, it's okay. i'm the one who's still online
spies7hank (12:47:29 AM): how were the waves today?
spies7kieno (12:48:37 AM): badass as always, i know you love the outdoors, you should give the west coast a try sometime
spies7hank (12:49:31 AM): i may have to one of these days. never tried my hand at surfing though
spies7hank (12:49:50 AM): i can see myself wiping out plenty
spies7kieno (12:51:10 AM): as long as you dont surf with your axe in hand, you should be alright
spies7hank (12:51:40 AM): i'll make sure to leave that with my beach towel
spies7hank (12:52:17 AM): so, who seems to be on your radar at the moment for this next exile?
spies7kieno (12:52:55 AM): like last exile, kathie for sure
spies7hank (12:53:27 AM): she is someone who is in my top 3 i think
spies7kieno (12:53:40 AM): her last minute switch to marcus looks totally bogus, plus she's really done nothing pro-cit the whole game
spies7hank (12:53:42 AM): until she actually explains what went on with her last vote
spies7kieno (12:53:54 AM): and i never liked her tunneling of henry
spies7hank (12:54:02 AM): well, she's brought nothing to the table at all.
spies7hank (12:54:29 AM): not posting. not really participating in aim, though to be fair she said she would not be around this weekend
spies7hank (12:54:36 AM): but before now, she hasn't done much
spies7kieno (12:55:30 AM): hasnt done shit
spies7hank (12:57:00 AM): yeah. definitely not an asset to the citizens right now, even if she is one
spies7kieno (12:57:43 AM): yeah, she said she'd pick up her game, hopefully she follows through the next couple of days
spies7hank (12:58:32 AM): i hope. by this time everyone should have a pretty good idea of how this game works i would think
spies7hank (12:58:46 AM): can't be used as an excuse forever
spies7kieno (1:00:46 AM): definitely not
spies7kieno (1:00:53 AM): who else fills out your top 2?
spies7hank (1:02:04 AM): tracy, for reasons that I mentioned on the forums. though she finally made an attempt to explain her stance. my vote is still probably on her, but its not a definite
spies7hank (1:03:15 AM): zack and yuri brought up some interesting points on lydia which i didn't notice on my own. i have nothing to really add to what has been said. my interactions with her have been really limited at this point, but i feel she needs to be looked at closely
spies7hank (1:04:10 AM): that would be my top 3. come Tuesday, who knows. i'm hoping to see participation pick up now that the weekend is over and we can get some more hunting going
spies7kieno (1:04:39 AM): most definitely, this weekend has been fairly unproductive, man, myself included
spies7hank (1:05:21 AM): after kathie, who are you considering?
spies7kieno (1:06:58 AM): tracy and lydia for the reasons previously mentioned, but id definitely like to talk to them 1 on 1 some more
spies7kieno (1:07:05 AM): im not entirely sold on harold either, man
spies7hank (1:07:50 AM): i dont know about harold. i tried to talk to him tonight but didnt get a response, just because i want to see where his head was at currently
spies7hank (1:07:59 AM): hard to judge people when you hardly ever talk to them
spies7kieno (1:08:50 AM): yeah, and hes usually not a big fan of talkin anyway
spies7hank (1:09:06 AM): that's what ive seen. kind of the wrong game then if thats the case
spies7hank (1:11:48 AM): i think im gonna head out and get some sleep
spies7hank (1:12:08 AM): ill see you around tomorrow probably
spies7kieno (1:12:15 AM): alright man, sounds good
spies7hank (1:12:30 AM): have a good one
spies7kieno (1:12:36 AM): adios

[Kieno]

1/18 cont.

pies7kieno (11:37:02 PM): hey there
spies7sara (11:39:52 PM): hi
spies7kieno (11:41:13 PM): i'll make this super short and sweet, cuz i gotta bounce soon, but who are your other suspects besides me?
spies7sara (11:41:36 PM): Tracy
spies7kieno (11:43:58 PM): for...?
spies7sara (11:47:57 PM): well for what I said before
spies7sara (11:48:05 PM): changing it to Marcus
spies7sara (11:48:23 PM): instead of keeping it Perry
spies7kieno (11:49:02 PM): yeah, but you totally ignored hank's post questioning why you would vote tracy for her push on marcus when you suspect marcus as well
spies7sara (11:49:39 PM): I didn't see that post
spies7kieno (11:50:34 PM): thats cool, it happens, but whats your response?
spies7sara (11:52:13 PM): First off, If everyone knew Perry was a Spy
spies7sara (11:52:23 PM): why change it?
spies7sara (11:52:36 PM): Marcus can always wait for exile 2
spies7kieno (11:54:06 PM): true, altho i cant say much either thanks to my stupid vote
spies7sara (11:54:31 PM): yah so why did you vote for Marcus
spies7kieno (11:57:12 PM): well, he was pretty scummy with his refusal to take any sort of stance, followed others lead when pushed and his claim seemd very shady
spies7sara (11:59:42 PM): hmm?
spies7kieno (12:00:44 AM): hmm what, bro?
spies7sara (12:04:08 AM): I just think that is weird
spies7sara (12:04:17 AM): how this team can change like that
spies7kieno (12:04:27 AM): change?
spies7sara (12:04:37 AM): from perry to Marcus
spies7kieno (12:05:41 AM): i dont think anyone actually ever switched from perry to marcus, just some stray votes ended up on marcus
spies7kieno (12:05:49 AM): i never expected it to be so close

spies7kieno (11:40:00 PM): whats up bro?
spies7harold went away at 11:48:01 PM
spies7harold returned at 11:48:04 PM
spies7harold (11:48:28 PM): yo
spies7kieno (11:49:56 PM): you pretty much locked into that whale tracy?
spies7harold (11:50:25 PM): probably
spies7harold (11:50:30 PM): im anxious to hear what fakeclaim she comes up with
spies7kieno (11:51:19 PM): man, i highly doubt that, i dont think anyone will believe a 3rd claim in only 2 episodes
spies7kieno (11:51:22 PM): who knows with this group tho
spies7harold (11:51:38 PM): lol
spies7harold (11:51:52 PM): if she's scum, she'll try something
spies7kieno (11:52:07 PM): you think she'll just lay down if she's town?
spies7harold (11:52:08 PM): who are you voting for
spies7harold (11:52:16 PM): no, she'll go out kicking and screaming if town
spies7harold (11:52:29 PM): if she's scum, i think she'll make a claim
spies7harold (11:52:35 PM): and then just assume the claim will save her
spies7harold (11:52:41 PM): if she's town, she'll start analyzing vote son her and ripping on people
spies7harold (11:52:44 PM): which I'm surprised she hasn't done yet
spies7harold (11:52:51 PM): and one of the reasons myv ote is getting more solidified
spies7kieno (11:54:52 PM): yeah, im definitely surprised we havent seen much from her lately
spies7harold (11:55:08 PM): who are you voting
spies7kieno (11:55:23 PM): maybe a scum realizing shes being bussed and just givin up
spies7kieno (11:56:08 PM): tracy's definitely an option, but im also looking at irulan, sara and to a lesser extent, kathie
spies7harold (11:56:23 PM): i just had this conversation with sara
spies7harold (11:56:26 PM): ive literally talked with her once
spies7harold (11:56:29 PM): for about 30 seconds
spies7harold (11:56:33 PM): completely related to the game
spies7harold (11:56:36 PM): i think she's drunk right now
spies7harold (11:56:38 PM): (11:42:20 PM) spies7sara: don't forget the condoms
(11:48:34 PM) spies7harold: huh?
(11:49:01 PM) spies7sara: lol you guys are bad at subtle clues
(11:49:11 PM) spies7sara: what are condoms for?
(11:49:21 PM) spies7harold: who am i having sex with
(11:49:38 PM) spies7sara: if I asking don't forget the condoms
(11:50:04 PM) spies7harold: ok...
(11:50:25 PM) spies7sara: nvm I go with the old guys
(11:50:37 PM) spies7sara: lol you can be my maid of honor
(11:50:53 PM) spies7harold: are you drunk?
(11:51:25 PM) spies7sara: no I'm just bored
spies7harold (11:56:56 PM): so.. if you want to get a true read on her, you should probably talk to her now
spies7harold (11:57:18 PM): also, i'm down for voting irulan if it comes to it
spies7harold (11:57:29 PM): if there's a serious movement on irulan, i hope that she claims early in the day to give us time to process it
spies7harold (11:57:39 PM): marcus' claim towards the end of the night almost cost us
spies7kieno (11:57:55 PM): yeah, no shit, we dont need that chaos again
spies7harold (11:58:08 PM): how many people are you talking to right now?
spies7kieno (11:58:15 PM): if she does claim, it will be early in the day because of her time zone
spies7kieno (11:58:26 PM): 2 people and the chat
spies7harold (11:58:53 PM): well, im going to bed
spies7harold (11:58:56 PM): talk to you later
spies7kieno (11:59:00 PM): later bro

[Kieno]

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spies7kieno (7:59:47 PM): hey
spies7kieno (8:00:26 PM): we've never really talked 1 on 1 before, thought id give it a shot before i potentially vote you
spies7tracy (8:01:10 PM): Hello.
spies7tracy (8:01:12 PM): So many IMs.
spies7tracy (8:01:13 PM): Gah.
spies7kieno (8:01:43 PM): i know, i wish i coulda got on earlier to collect my thoughts a bit first
spies7tracy (8:02:15 PM): To be honest, and this will not help your opinion of me, but right now my vote is on you.
spies7tracy (8:02:22 PM): General vibe.
spies7kieno (8:03:04 PM): thats cool, if anything, that might make me feel better about you
spies7tracy (8:03:16 PM): In addition to you being one of those who were persuaded by me to vote for Marcus (I know I am guilty of leading the Exile, but I am not going to vote for myself )
spies7tracy (8:05:36 PM): I can not really defend myself from the point of me leading the Marcus Exile.
spies7kieno (8:06:07 PM): so its just my vibe and my vote?
spies7tracy (8:08:24 PM): Pretty much.
spies7tracy (8:08:33 PM): There is no evidence for this Exile, at all.
spies7tracy (8:08:38 PM): It is worrying me a lot.
spies7kieno (8:09:52 PM): then why arent you taking my advice and voting stone or harold?
spies7tracy (8:10:04 PM): I am a gut player.
spies7tracy (8:10:11 PM): Gut says Stone and Harold are Citizens.
spies7tracy (8:10:14 PM): If you have a case, lay it out for me.
spies7tracy (8:10:17 PM): Please.
spies7kieno (8:10:36 PM): If i don't end up voting for you, my vote will be on Sara
spies7kieno (8:10:46 PM): not sure i can convince anyone to come with me tho
spies7tracy (8:11:03 PM): Then why do you want me to vote Stone/Harold/
spies7tracy (8:11:04 PM): ?
spies7kieno (8:11:23 PM): i totally dont, that was just jokin advice
spies7kieno (8:11:40 PM): about saving your own sizeable ass
spies7tracy (8:11:45 PM): Haha.
spies7kieno (8:11:56 PM): i know, im so funny it hurts
spies7kieno (8:13:44 PM): my case against sara in very brief form: her bogus claims about my indifference towards alex's imprisonment and my supposed prior knowledge of it look like she's just searchin for an easy exile...not a strong spy play, just a dumb one
spies7kieno (8:13:50 PM): Perry was self evident that he was a spy and should have been the first boot (thank god he was)
spies7kieno (8:14:19 PM): that line by sara struck me as trying way too hard to appear cit
spies7kieno (8:15:03 PM): and the weakest bit of evidence: being the competing wagon against a cit, possibly some spies on her wagon to avoid voting out jimbob or appearing to waste votes
spies7tracy (8:15:42 PM): Decent case.
spies7tracy (8:15:50 PM): For the situation.
spies7kieno (8:16:41 PM): for the situation? you lost me bro
spies7tracy (8:17:16 PM): With the lack of evidence, it is decent.

spies7kieno (8:07:25 PM): "She loses that ability once she saves that one"?
spies7kieno (8:07:29 PM): what does that exactly mean bro?
spies7hank (8:07:41 PM): if she saves someone, her ability is gone
spies7hank (8:07:58 PM): not sure why I said "that"
spies7hank (8:08:06 PM): she's got one save and that's all
spies7kieno (8:08:49 PM): got it, so she can try to protect 1 person per imprisonment until she actually saves one?
spies7hank (8:08:59 PM): that's what she said
spies7kieno (8:24:17 PM): did you happen to see my reasons for voting sara?
spies7hank (8:24:34 PM): no, i haven't looked at the chat in a bit. been talking to tracy
spies7hank (8:24:38 PM): what's up?
spies7kieno (8:25:11 PM): i dont know if youd even consider sparin tracy, but here it is
spies7kieno (8:25:20 PM): my case against sara in very brief form: her bogus claims about my indifference towards alex's imprisonment and my supposed prior knowledge of it look like she's just searchin for an easy exile...not a strong spy play, just a dumb one. "Perry was self evident that he was a spy and should have been the first boot (thank god he was)" - that line by sara struck me as trying way too hard to appear cit. and the weakest bit of evidence: being the competing wagon against a cit, possibly some spies on her wagon to avoid voting out jimbob or appearing to waste votes.
spies7kieno (8:25:27 PM): got pretty much ignored in chat tho...
spies7kieno (8:25:43 PM): kinda like my early suspicion of kathie, no respect for surfers man
spies7hank (8:25:47 PM): I'm looking at options other than tracy
spies7hank (8:26:03 PM): but I don't want to make a stupid switch either.
spies7kieno (8:26:50 PM): trust me, i know all about stupid switches
spies7kieno (8:26:57 PM): have you talked to sara at all yet?
spies7hank (8:27:12 PM): yeah. i'm not really impressed
spies7hank (8:28:04 PM): maybe the free masons were onto something with her
spies7kieno (8:33:11 PM): has tracy been able to reduce your suspicion of her or was it never that high to begin with?
spies7hank (8:33:30 PM): I'm currently debating sara or lydia
spies7hank (8:33:47 PM): it was never incredibly high to begin with, but it was the highest I had.
spies7hank (8:36:32 PM): don't know if its right or not, but it feels the best route to go. i'm switching to sara.
spies7kieno (8:37:33 PM): badass, feel the power of the surfer 'suasion
spies7hank (8:38:35 PM): I'll cross my fingers now
spies7kieno (8:39:08 PM): unlikely to be exiled at this point, unless i really work some stoner magic these last 20 minutes
spies7hank (8:40:16 PM): who else are you talking to?
spies7hank (8:40:22 PM): about sara?
spies7kieno (10:04:02 PM): oops, didnt see this til now
spies7kieno (10:04:29 PM): talked to my bros henry, vlad, kleyton and anton who all thankfully rejected my case
spies7hank (10:04:37 PM): definitely
spies7hank (10:04:53 PM): you win some and lose some. this time we came out on the wrong end for now
spies7kieno (10:05:01 PM): altho i still think it might be possible, have to check interactions with adra and lydia
spies7hank (10:05:20 PM): sara's?
spies7hank (10:05:32 PM): im not sure that lydia was around to interact with sara
spies7kieno (10:05:45 PM): sara, with adra, everyone else (illuminati) with lydia

spies7kieno (8:27:33 PM): hey brah
spies7henry (8:27:41 PM): HELLO
spies7kieno (8:28:08 PM): since irulan isnt here and im not sure kleyton is any more literate than the european, gimme a quick rundown of why youre votin stone
spies7henry (8:29:05 PM): I THINK HE LIED DAY ONE ABOUT HIS "PLAN"
spies7henry (8:29:14 PM): I THINK HE'S TOO WORRIED ABOUT HIS IMAGE
spies7henry (8:29:33 PM): HE DOESN'T SEEM INTERESTED IN CATCHING SPIES
spies7henry (8:29:38 PM): HE FORCED A DOCTOR CLAIM
spies7kieno (8:30:59 PM): that was definitely quick, not sure how much of it i agree with
spies7kieno (8:31:13 PM): how does he not seem interested in catchin spies?
spies7henry (8:33:05 PM): DAY ONE HE CLAIMED I WAS HIS #1 SUSPECT
spies7henry (8:33:09 PM): HE NEVER SPOKE WITH ME
spies7henry (8:33:18 PM): WOULDN'T YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR #1 SUSPECT?
spies7henry (8:33:29 PM): TODAY HE IS AMBIVALENT
spies7kieno (8:33:36 PM): pary of his "plan", which doesnt help cuz you dont believe it
spies7kieno (8:33:40 PM): *part
spies7henry (8:34:02 PM): DOES THAT PLAN MAKE SENSE TO YOU
spies7henry (8:34:08 PM): OR IS IT MORE LIKELY THAT LIKE PERRY
spies7henry (8:34:19 PM): HE THOUGHT I WAS A VULNERABLE DODDERING OLD FOOL
spies7henry (8:34:38 PM): AND DECIDED TO TRY TO GET ME OUT AS THE EASY EXILE
spies7kieno (8:35:50 PM): for sure, thats possible
spies7henry (8:36:06 PM): WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THE LITTLE PUDWHACKER
spies7kieno (8:36:10 PM): or he wanted to see if anyone jumped on his poorly formed suspicions
spies7henry (8:36:13 PM): HAVE YOU SEEN HIM HUNT SPIES?
spies7kieno (8:36:36 PM): no, his main objective has been to get irulan to fully claim
spies7henry (8:36:36 PM): HE HASN;T TALKED TO ME AFTER THE FACT KIENO
spies7henry (8:36:45 PM): HE GOT DEFENSIVE TODAY WHEN I QUESTIONED HIM ABOUT HIS VOTE TODAY
spies7kieno (8:36:48 PM): cuz he doesnt suspect you anymore, right?
spies7henry (8:37:02 PM): RIGHT, AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
spies7henry (8:37:14 PM): HOW DID HE DETERMINE I WAS A CIT BASED ON THE FIRST TWO DAYS
spies7henry (8:37:17 PM): WITHOUT TALKING TO ME
spies7henry (8:37:21 PM): IT'S A CROCK
spies7kieno (8:38:24 PM): youre makin some good points old bro, but i think im stickin with sara
spies7henry (8:52:35 PM): HAS KATHIE TALKED WITH YOU YET TONIGHT?
spies7kieno (8:52:56 PM): nope
spies7kieno (8:54:28 PM): why you askin?
spies7henry (9:21:30 PM): THOUGHT SHE WAS CONSIDERING VOTING YOU. I WAS WRONG

pies7kieno (8:52:06 PM): locked into lydia, bro?
spies7anton (8:55:19 PM): Pretty sure.
spies7anton (8:55:27 PM): I don't wanna keep hopping around.
spies7anton (8:55:31 PM): I already jumped off Tracy.
spies7anton (8:55:37 PM): And as you know, that's a large jump.
spies7kieno (8:56:02 PM): you think hoppin will make you look bad?
spies7anton (8:57:05 PM): It sure made the others look bad last time.
spies7anton (8:57:17 PM): And I have a bad feeling about Lydia anyway.
spies7anton (8:57:21 PM): Much more than Stone.
spies7anton (8:57:29 PM): Looks like Tracy worked her way out of trouble.
spies7kieno (8:58:18 PM): seems like it
spies7kieno (8:58:26 PM): how do you feel about sara?
spies7anton (9:00:45 PM): I don't know her at all.
spies7anton (9:00:57 PM): We've only talked once and it was about Alex.
spies7anton (9:01:12 PM): It wasn't relevant at all.